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guitarzan509
10-22-2008, 04:08 PM
my new comps.http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn81/pcrawford1044/Picture673-2-1.jpg

clgkag
10-22-2008, 04:28 PM
Looking good. Are they gold heads?

guitarzan509
10-22-2008, 04:34 PM
the guy at my lfs store called them golds so not sure maybe same thing i really like them im wondering if they are the same as the dwarf ones that live in shells ? i have them right now in a 29 wit hmultis and cyps. they are getting pushed around some by the multis not sure of any damage being done. you know anything bout comps. ? mine right now are only bout 1 inch or so big

cbzoo
10-22-2008, 05:00 PM
SLOW GROWING!!!! they are a pretty hardy fish but they take forever to grow up....
good looking fish I have a pair that looks just like that only they have "grown" to a little over 3" or so. I dont know if they grow so much as SLOWLY shift into a larger size. growing seems such a hasty term to describe Comps...

guitarzan509
10-22-2008, 05:04 PM
so how big do they get tom ? the guy at the lfs thought 3 or 4 inches he gestured with his hand

guitarzan509
10-22-2008, 05:08 PM
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn81/pcrawford1044/Picture672-1.jpg

guitarzan509
10-22-2008, 05:11 PM
multis and cyps dont seem to be doing any damage to them just a little bossy the comps turn theer bod yand arch it toward them when they http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn81/pcrawford1044/Picture671-1.jpgattack

Led
10-22-2008, 06:42 PM
so how big do they get tom ? the guy at the lfs thought 3 or 4 inches he gestured with his hand

Did the guy at the LFS kind of do the $5 footlong thing and then shrink it to a smaller size.....because they normally don't know what they are talking about..... :lol:

guitarzan509
10-22-2008, 06:44 PM
whys that ?

cbzoo
10-22-2008, 07:07 PM
Adult comps can grow up to 5" long.. I have heard it can take over a year to grow out fry to saleable size... The bending of the body is a defesec mechanism. they do that to expose the rough edges of their scales so the the other fish cuts their lips on the edges of the scales!!!! Really cool to see. Mild mannered excecpt when spawning so I have heard. I have never witnessed spawning yet so I can not speak from first hand knowledge. There is a yellow Calvus that looks simmilar to the Comps but the Calvus has two differences.. One is there is an area on the fishes forhead that lacks scales. The other is that the Calvus generally is a spotted fish and the Comp is a striped fish. This is not to say they do not both have stripes and spots. It is just in the Calvus have more spots than stripes and the Comps have more Stripes than spots.. Telling male from female is reallllllly tough espially when they are young like yours.

guitarzan509
10-22-2008, 07:10 PM
thanks tom

fasttalon94
10-22-2008, 09:51 PM
no, the fish you are thinking of are called SUmbu Shell Compresseceps.

And are very rare.

I have bred calvus and took probably 3 months to get to a little bigger than 5/8th inch (5/8th inch being "sellable size" as far as BAP i concerned i think.

mofunnyfarm
10-23-2008, 12:27 AM
no, the fish you are thinking of are called SUmbu Shell Compresseceps.
And are very rare.
I had some and lost all but one when I was sick. I believe they came from cichlid exchange. I got them from a HAAS club member when he sold them at one of our auctions.
I sold the last remaining one at our last auction. They are a pretty neat fish.
Walter

Led
10-23-2008, 07:52 AM
Why don't most of them know what they are talking about or why do they do the $5 footlong way of showing size?

furcifer
10-23-2008, 06:29 PM
I have sumbus and have spawned them a lot. From the picture you posted the heads are too gold for sumbu. They are great little fish.

guitarzan509
10-23-2008, 09:26 PM
ok experts 1 more thing he called these gold comps. but all i can find is gold head same thing? thanks guys

guitarzan509
10-23-2008, 09:28 PM
ok experts 1 more thing he called these gold comps. but all i kind find out there are gold head. they the same thing? thanks guys

cbzoo
10-24-2008, 05:48 AM
yeah those look like gold heads to me.. There is a regional gold head from and area I believe is called Muzi or something like that that has a gold head and a brown colored body. The pair you have and the pair I have are goldheaded comps.

Led
10-24-2008, 11:09 AM
If he called them gold comps, they probably are not gold heads. Gold heads when they get larger have a distinct color change from head to body. Body is more brown and head is gold.
As furcifer stated the Sumbu are not that colorful. Actually, kind of drab but cool because of behavior.
There are just plain gold comps out there just like the yellows and reds. It is always nice to know the locale they were collected from or where the parents came from. But, in most LFS you are lucky to find out what fish you really got. I bought cichlids at an LFS once and the guy at the LFS swore they were tetra....oh, well. :)

guitarzan509
10-24-2008, 12:51 PM
yea i know what you,ve been talking about led but im still not gonna bash my lfs , theres not to many of them left any more at least not im my area , besides he,s one the the bussinesses that sponsors our fish club

Led
10-24-2008, 02:53 PM
There are some good LFS out there. Don't get me wrong. But, unfortunately they seem to be few and far between anymore. I need to get up to Wet Pet in Eldora, I have heard some great things about that LFS and have not been to it yet.
The LFS in Atlantic is pretty nice. Really nice 520G show tank. There are some good ones around and some of the good ones that were smaller mom & pop stores have closed up. Earl May in Sioux City, IA used to be nice when my friend managed the fish section....that was many years back though. Now I don't believe they stock fish at all.

guitarzan509
10-24-2008, 03:02 PM
thanks led besides the wetpet any other good ones left in iowa ? how bout the des moines area ?

shooter50014
10-24-2008, 04:55 PM
heck of a drive for you but I would also recommend the fish store in atlantic. I blame rick for the start of my cichlid buying and first tank. It didnt explode until I went to the expo last year.

Led
10-24-2008, 06:15 PM
Yep, that store in Atlantic is a good one. The one that Kingfish mentioned that was destroyed during the flood in Coralville was an awesome one....Coralville Bay. Not sure if that guy is rebuilding or what. It is a suburb of Iowa City. They were breeding seahorses at that LFS. Pretty awesome store, too bad it got hit.

mofunnyfarm
10-24-2008, 10:10 PM
I check cichlid forum's profiles and I hate to say it, but I mostly buy from a reputable online dealer or sometimes from a hobbyist, but buying from a hobbyist is a gamble unless you know them and trust them.
I too like to know the area they are collected. I have replaced fish that I didn't know the area that they collected in, just because I wanted to be sure I had the right fish and not a mixed gene pool from different locations. Maybe I am too picky.
Atolamps are cool no matter where they are from, but they sure grow slow.
Walter

guitarzan509
10-25-2008, 09:03 AM
im glad they grow slow because right now they are just in a 29 with my multis and some cyps till i get a 3 or 4 foot tank im thinking maybe a 40

Led
10-25-2008, 09:35 AM
After a year and it looks like they have barely grown you will take that statement back. :)

guitarzan509
10-25-2008, 09:46 AM
yea but im more worried about the 2 breeding TRIOS of cyps. i have in there also

guitarzan509
10-25-2008, 09:47 AM
they really grow that slow huh?

furcifer
10-25-2008, 11:58 AM
Really really slow.

craigthor
10-25-2008, 12:05 PM
I've been informed that Coralville Bay is rebuilding just in a new location. That is all the details I have right now.

Craig

Led
10-25-2008, 12:42 PM
Glad Coralville is rebuilding.

Yep, they grow that slow. I told myself I will NEVER buy comp/calvus fry again. So, this last time I got some nice Orange Mwela F1s that were breeding size already from Lionsfan. They are sweet and well worth the extra $$$$ for the extra size.